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I keep hearing modern anime sucks, that there’s a crisis in anime, that there’s a crisis amongst the otaku, all that. I have a geeky audience, here: let’s see what you think.

How long has modern anime sucked?

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Date: 2011-09-02 05:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vostoklake
What button do I press for "Hideaki Anno is my master now"?

Date: 2011-09-01 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-rev.livejournal.com
My anime goes from Starblazers to Captain Harlock to Hetalia. Well, just those three. And I just like Captain Harlock for the costume.

Date: 2011-09-02 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-rev.livejournal.com
My favorite gay superhero is the Desert Peach.

Date: 2011-09-02 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-rev.livejournal.com
Not that that's directly relevant, except I was going to say 'my favorite transvestite superhero', but he isn't, he's just a dandy.

Date: 2011-09-02 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] st-rev.livejournal.com
He's a hero, and he's super. What's the problem?

Date: 2011-09-02 01:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] avram
I love how Harlock's hair and cape can be blown in opposite directions by the same wind. In space!

Date: 2011-09-02 02:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] annathepiper
Wait, what, GATCHAMAN IS NOT ON THIS POLL!

Date: 2011-09-02 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stickmaker.livejournal.com


Considering recent anime, I *really* like _Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit_. I also like _Kekkaishi_ and the first _Hellsing_ series.

Older stuff? I have fond memories of _Urusei Yatsura_, _Yusha Raiden_ (and a bunch of other giant robot shows), _Starblazers_, the first _Project A-Ko_, _Xabungle_, _Orguss_, _Lupin III_ (Though the movies more than the series), _8th Man_ (a childhood favorite which still largely holds up), _Halfway Ranma_ (though only the early episodes), and many others.

My all-time favorite, though, is still the three movies made from the original Gundam series.

Date: 2011-09-02 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ypawtows.livejournal.com
Of the new stuff, my current favorite is Fullmetal Alchemist. I think Ranma 1/2 was the first anime I was exposed to as "anime".
I liked dubbed anime when I was a kid, but I had no idea.... :)

Date: 2011-09-04 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ypawtows.livejournal.com
VTAS. Before then I knew of this term "Japanamation", but that's pretty much as far as it went in my brain. :)

Date: 2011-09-02 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blues-kun.livejournal.com
There was a dry spell in anime when nothing really interested me, but there are some good shows out now! I need to get downloadin'.

Though I do love GE999 lul. Oh Tetsuro, you crazy little shit.

Date: 2011-09-02 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loopback.livejournal.com
No Lain, Evangelion, or Gilgamesh?

this poll is dead to me.

Date: 2011-09-02 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loopback.livejournal.com
AND NO ELFEN LIED!!!

Date: 2011-09-02 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quen-elf.livejournal.com
Aren't some of your 'modern anime' shows actually pretty old? Full Metal Alchemist and Kino's Journey are from 2003, RahX is 2002... (OK, the other two are new.) I ticked that option anyway despite not having actually seen any of those shows.

For other modern shows, Ano Hana (etc) is all kinds of awesome (uh haven't watched the ending yet though) and that was this year. In the overhyped category, Madoka has, uh, some problems (I did watch the ending for that, sigh), but it's still pretty interesting. Somebody actually licensed petit whateveritwas (the new Junichi Sato joint, set in Paris) so I stopped watching it, but it was pretty nice - albeit not as good as Aria, but still hitting that kind of relaxing spot.

On shows which aren't actually this year - I missed Durarara altogether when it aired because I wasn't really watching anime at that point, but it came out on US DVD earlier this year (three sets) and damn that was great. Really clever plotting, too, with a twist I hadn't really seen before.

And of course, if we're going back nearly as far as FMA, there's Aria itself (SO GOOD) and Honey and Clover and um, other stuff. Oh. 5 centimetres per second? How awesome was that. Somebody actually made an anime movie/OAV that doesn't suck, and what could we compare it to from 'not modern' anime, Akira? Because um, Akira was fun and all, but... no contest. (Talking of comparing Akira unfavourably to more recent movies, there's also everything that the late Satoshi Kon ever made...)

More general point, I love how bright and clean digital anime looks compared to the older cel stuff. (Well, OK, not when they outsource to a Korean studio that can't draw and have been given forty-eight seconds for the entire episode, but other than that.) Even cheap digital animation looks, to me, a lot nicer than relatively expensive old-style stuff. Oh, and remember when CG was a horrific abomination that nobody wanted anywhere near their anime show (but studios insisted on doing it anyway)? Yeah, thank goodness for modern anime, where not only does the CG not suck but they've generally figured out how to use it in a way that actually fits with the hand-drawn artwork.

So anyway, if there's a crisis in anime, yes there is in the US: the fan bubble burst some years back, and most people are not prepared to pay money for it any more. That's a business crisis and sent several companies under, but it's not a crisis with anime itself.

Date: 2011-09-03 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epawtows.livejournal.com
The origional FMA was 2003, but the new one (BrotherHood) is from 2009. It's much closer to the manga, so I don't know if you can really count it as 'new'.

Date: 2011-09-04 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quen-elf.livejournal.com
Oh, oops, I forgot there was a new one. :) Didn't watch either, so. Thanks for the correction.

Date: 2011-09-04 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quen-elf.livejournal.com
OK, fair enough, I didn't get the definition of 'modern'. And yes I realise those were only examples and you couldn't include everything, I just took the opportunity to add some more. :)

To be fair, modern anime is mostly shite but that was also true of all periods of anime (and of everything), so.

I like the word 'superclean' :) For some reason that word sort of reminded me of 'ligne claire' as in the comic drawing style, which I also approve of, although I don't think Hergé had digital paint...

And you're seriously going to do a poll about how many poll options people want? :)

...is anime as tribalized as heavy metal?

Date: 2011-09-03 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tahkhleet.livejournal.com
...I'd answer the top option even though I haven't seen any of those because I've seen other post 2000 anime and in fact, in many regards, I like them better than most earlier stuff. I certainly wouldn't regard the genre as having collectively jumped the shark.

My favourites are Hellgirl, Fruits Basket, Azumanga Daioh, and Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (stylistically, to me, the last one is an epistemological mystery show: is Haruhi God, or Kyon, both, or neither? and exploring the proposition "As above, so below") Elfen Lied gets honourable mention as good trauma porn and a superb emotional roller coaster.

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