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Jun. 28th, 2009 09:34 am
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From the White House press briefing on Friday, regarding Pride Month and Stonewall 40:
Q I was just wondering what -- are we to expect any substantive announcements on the two issues that that community has right at the forefront right now -- Defense of Marriage and "don't ask, don't tell"?

MR. [ROBERT] GIBBS: No.
Well, that's clear enough.

Here, go read all these. And figure it out already: the Obama administration is not your friend and not on your goddamn side.

Date: 2009-06-28 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whip-lash.livejournal.com
I don't understand why people didn't take Obama at his word during he election. He is a socially conservative Christian... more socially conservative than Dubya, probably, except on the issues of abortion and booze.

Date: 2009-06-29 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rozasharn.livejournal.com
He gave more than one word.

On abortion, for example, he said he was pro-choice, then turned around and said things like "I believe abortion is a decision that should be between a woman and her family and her pastor and her doctor." Well. If they all get a say, then it's not her choice any more: they could out-vote her.

Likewise, he claimed to support gay rights, wrote them into his platform and everything. But he also said things like "I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman."

My point is that veterans of these fights know that any statement of support for the opposition shows the true position; people who didn't know that, or didn't follow the news closely enough to catch the giveaway statements, didn't realize he was only claiming to be an ally.

Date: 2009-06-28 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phillipalden.livejournal.com
The Obama administration is not your friend and not on your goddamn side.

I think many of us in the gay community are already painfully aware of that. Not that we're going to do anything about it. I look at the GLBT Community in San Francisco and I see the same type of apathy that pervades the rest of America.

We've become as pathetic as the rest of the lazy Americans who can't pull themselves away from the TV long enough to engage in social action.

Date: 2009-06-28 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stickmaker.livejournal.com


Hey, I voted Libertarian...

Date: 2009-06-28 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordperrin.livejournal.com
This.

Maybe if the gay community voted for people who actually believed in the concept of 'live and let live' instead of democrat pretenders the world would become a better place. But noooooooo you're 'throwing your vote away' by not voting for Obama. Face it gay community: you made this bed. Now sleep in it.

Date: 2009-06-29 12:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bradhicks.livejournal.com
Nor am I even vaguely surprised. No black politician in America gets very far without the acceptance of the African Methodist Episcopal church, and it's one of the most aggressively homophobic religious denominations on Earth, somewhere to the right of Salafist Islam on the subject.

What, Obama promised you something else when he was in the Democratic primaries? Barack Obama is a 47 year old leading-edge member of Generation X: you should assume that there is no lie he isn't willing to tell you in order to get something that he wants. It's a generational thing: if you ask a question, telegraph in advance what answer you want, and hint broadly that you're not going to check whether we're telling you the truth or not, the overwhelming majority of us will take that as evidence that you don't want to know the truth, you want to be lied to. I had hoped that, having spent much of his childhood outside the US during the time the rest of his age-cohort were learning to lie so smoothly, he would be different. In this, I was utterly, foolishly, and intolerably self-deluded.
From: [identity profile] politico08.livejournal.com
Obama is certainly not an Xer, and virtually no prominent voices anywhere have said he is an Xer. By contrast, many influential voices have repeatedly said that Obama is part of Generation Jones, born 1954-1965, between the Boomers and Generation X. Google Generation Jones, and you'll see it’s gotten a ton of media attention, and many top commentators from many top publications and networks (Washington Post, Time magazine, NBC, Newsweek, ABC, etc.) specifically use this term to describe Obama.



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