today's torture update

[solarbird]

Cheney Admits Central Role In Torture For First Time, says the Huffington Post. The only problem is that the LA Times story they're referencing, like so many other stories, refuses to all torture torture, using instead the euphemism "severe interrogation methods." Worse, note this paragraph, written by the LA times:

His comments come on the heels of disclosures by a Senate committee showing that high-level officials in the Bush administration were intimately involved in reviewing and approving interrogation methods that have since been explicitly outlawed and that have been condemned internationally as torture.

WRONG. WRONG, YOU FUCKS. They were already illegal and already defined as torture in both US and international law. Period. Full. fucking. stop. Stop spinning for them and start acting like goddamn journalists instead of PR flacks, you despicable clowns.

In other "lying bullshit" news, watch National Review lie about the bipartisan Senate report showing Mr. Bush and Mr. Rumsfeld directly signed off on illegal torture and tossing of the Geneva Conventions.

Chief Executive Bush has a contemptable "so what?" when it's pointed out that the only reason there's an Al Qaeda presense in Iraq is because of his fucking invasion. Enjoy Sullivan's comment here. Meanwhile, the Iraqi journalist who has shown more moxie than any American news source, the guy who threw his shoes at Mr. Bush during a press conference, reportedly got the shit kicked out of him, and sources say the Americans did it. Later reports say he was indeed beaten, but it was apparently Maliki government thugs, rather than US government thugs. Maybe rendition was involved. Heh.

Oh, and finally, watch the US Army support fundamentalist evangelicals as embedded evangelists in Afghanistan.

Comments

Re. Shoe-Flinging Journalists

[mundivagant.livejournal.com]

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Just sayin'

Re: Re. Shoe-Flinging Journalists

[emrecom.livejournal.com]

Cheney admits to war crimes he wasn't authorzied to order.

What's he have to do, machine gun a room of todlers live on TV before someone goes, Gee, he might be a tiny bit out of line.

Re: Re. Shoe-Flinging Journalists

[mundivagant.livejournal.com]

You know, if I was intent on punishing the Bush Reich for their war crimes, I would be very quiet about it until precisely 12:01 PM on Jan 20, when Bush loses all authority over presidential pardons.

Just sayin'.

Re: Re. Shoe-Flinging Journalists

[emrecom.livejournal.com]

One would expect Cheney to proclaim as per his idol that If a VP does it, it isn't a war crime.

Re: Re. Shoe-Flinging Journalists

[mundivagant.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but Presidents cannot pardon themselves... and Vice-Presidents can be pardoned by the President... soooo...

Re: Re. Shoe-Flinging Journalists

[shadesofmauve]

This.

And then nail the fuckers.

Re: Re. Shoe-Flinging Journalists

[mundivagant.livejournal.com]

Realistically I don't think they'll get nailed; but, my argument is, even if I'm wrong, and Obama plans to surprise us all with a nice first round of mass indictments, he needs to give not even hints of this to the Bush Reich, because Bush is exactly the sort of person stupid enough to issue blanket pardons.

Re: Re. Shoe-Flinging Journalists

[shadesofmauve]

I agree on all points -- I'd just love to be wrong.

[shadesofmauve]

Is it bad that the feeling of impotent rage is getting a little old? We knew they tortured, we tried to point out that it was heinous and inhuman and immoral regardless of weather it was legal in US law, and that it provides crap information to boot. Finally, a report points out that yes, all those things the bleeding-heart liberals said about torture was actually true, and no one pays any f*cking attention!

*deep breath*

Sorry, person I don't know IRL, for ranting at the choir.

[solarbird]

Oh, I absolutely know how you feel about this. I agree. And it was illegal. Then, and now. Illegal. Period. --30-- End of story. But the political establishment doesn't care about petty things like law and the political press doesn't care about anything other than sucking up to the political establishment, so we have this.

[partywhipple.livejournal.com]

Sad thing is I'll bet you good money no one will get in the least amount of trouble for this. I'll bet even obama won't do anything. I am hoping, at least, he will not continue the barbarism. But I have little faith in any politician these days. Everyone is about power and saying "He shouldn't have done that" limits it. I doubt we'll see any change. Blah.