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We're fucked.

President Bush has won re-election by running, essentially, to the evangelicals. Most of his campaign was based on winning mostly with them.

Anti-queer initiatives passed in 11 out of 11 states. All of the amendments ban queer marriage. Most also ban civil unions. At least one makes queer marriage a crime outright (a misdemeanor), not just prohibited.

NPR exit pollers are being surprised by how many people are giving "moral values" as a big reason for voting, and voting Bush. "moral values" means anti-abortion-rights and anti-gay stance.

I don't think we'll get the anti-gay Federal amendment revote next year. I think we'll get year after next, to whip up the vote again by lashing into us.

But if Bush really does name another Scalia or another Thomas to the court - as he's said repeatedly he wants to do - and that person replaces one of the five in the 5-4 decision overturning last year's repeal of the anti-gay sodomy laws - we could be kicked back 20 or 30 years in a very, very short period of time.

The evangelicals won this election.

It's bad.

It's really bad.

Date: 2004-11-03 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banner.livejournal.com
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2003/07/25/2

Okay the numbers were smaller than I thought, but it was around 55 percent who were oppsed to it, versus the 70 percent I think it is we have now.

Still, the numbers have gotten a lot worse. Here is a Jersey poll
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20030808/opinion/70899.shtml

This tracks the changing results: http://pewforum.org/docs/index.php?DocID=39

But the facts are, Bush is going to be re-elected. If Gay marriage is going to happen, then someone needs to start a campaign to make it happen, and one that does it by addressing fears, not raising them.

Date: 2004-11-03 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flashfire.livejournal.com
Whatever the case, there was never a majority in the country in favor of gay marriage.

Nice try.

Date: 2004-11-03 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-chiron.livejournal.com
Let's look at the Pew Forum source you provided. It shows that the percentage supporting gay marriage went from 38% to 32%.

That's certainly a drop, but there's a HUGE difference between a 6 point drop and claiming that a majority supported gay marriage and now 70% oppose it.

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