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We're fucked.

President Bush has won re-election by running, essentially, to the evangelicals. Most of his campaign was based on winning mostly with them.

Anti-queer initiatives passed in 11 out of 11 states. All of the amendments ban queer marriage. Most also ban civil unions. At least one makes queer marriage a crime outright (a misdemeanor), not just prohibited.

NPR exit pollers are being surprised by how many people are giving "moral values" as a big reason for voting, and voting Bush. "moral values" means anti-abortion-rights and anti-gay stance.

I don't think we'll get the anti-gay Federal amendment revote next year. I think we'll get year after next, to whip up the vote again by lashing into us.

But if Bush really does name another Scalia or another Thomas to the court - as he's said repeatedly he wants to do - and that person replaces one of the five in the 5-4 decision overturning last year's repeal of the anti-gay sodomy laws - we could be kicked back 20 or 30 years in a very, very short period of time.

The evangelicals won this election.

It's bad.

It's really bad.

Date: 2004-11-03 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-chiron.livejournal.com
Really? Conservatives like LBJ? Specifically which conservatives are you talking about?

Date: 2004-11-03 08:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] avram
As I recall, Banner has the bad habit of using the word “conservative” as a rough synonym for “libertarian”.

Date: 2004-11-03 03:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wrog
For those "libertarians" I know who seem more than happy to let slide the social side of things (which appears to be most of them), the "conservative" adjective is wholly appropriate as far as I could tell.

That is, if you've got someone who is
  • is willing to overlook anti-abortion/anti-gay-rights/pro-drugwar zealotry in order to vote for someone who fights for corporate property rights or gun rights,
  • is far more bothered by high taxes and social programs than s/he is about civil-rights violations and government sponsorship of religion
what do you call this person other than "conservative"?

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