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The Southern Baptist Convention seems to be trying to rally the troops towards more than just the amendment. (Which should surprise no one.) Stolen from Andrew Sullivan's website:


PARTY OF GOD, CTD: The fusion of the Republican party with evangelical Christian churches is now well-entrenched, as this latest NYT story reveals. Ralph Reed, of course, was unrepentant in his courting of the Southern Baptists for the Republican party last month. And the president addressed the SBC conference by satellite, while Richard Land launched the voter registration drive called "I Vote Values." "I, for one, believe people of faith have the same rights to participate in the political process as any other citizens," Reed said. "Christians should not be treated as second-class citizens." Of course they shouldn't. Still, it's worth checking out the IVoteValues.com website to see exactly which values the president is endorsing. In the section on homosexuality, the Southern Baptists remind us of what the founding fathers thought of gays:
During the American Revolution, when the Continental Army Lieutenant Enslin was found "attempting to commit sodomy," Commander George Washington issued an order "with abhorrence and detestation." Enslin was to be "drummed out of the camp ... never to return." Thomas Jefferson authorized legislation to penalize sodomy with castration. At the time the Constitution was ratified, the states of New York, North Carolina, South Carolina, Connecticut, Virginia, Rhode Island, Massachusetts and New Jersey each implemented the death penalty for those who committed sodomy."
Why is the SBC reporting this? There are other sections on the dreaded homos, entitled: "Targeting You ... And Your Children." And: 'Homosexuality Costs You Plenty!" This is what Bush Republicanism is now about - beneath the surface. Worth considering in this campaign. (Hat tip: Roger Abramson).

Date: 2004-07-04 11:28 pm (UTC)
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The founding book of libertarianism and Conservatism in this country is 'The Road to Serfdom'. I'm not really ignoring anything, there is a tremendous amount of things out there. The American Conservative movement started in '45, right after the war.

And I wasn't talking about the Clinton's, I was talking specifically about Hillary Clinton. I point to her recent statement in SF about 'taking money away from you for your own good' (paraphrased).

Date: 2004-07-06 08:21 am (UTC)
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The Road to Surfdom by Friedrich Hayek? If you want to say that it's the founding document for American libertarianism I won't argue, but Hayek himself denied being a conservative.

Hillary said "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good", and conservatives do exactly the same, but with a different notion of what the common good consists of.

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