A series of replies from a long and unfortunate conversation (4): short, shouty, and incomplete

[solarbird]

After that, the other person went off in ways that really made me explode, because it showed me they hadn’t been listening to me, not actually, not for years, and that if anything, they’d come in with an agenda and intent to win, not have a conversation.

And it wound me up so much that I mostly just screamed at them and told them to leave.

I’m including it for completeness, though. I’m not including an incomplete and un-posted reply I’d been working on before this happened, because it’s super rough and speculative, and there’s no real point. But the gist of it was following up on the previous post, nr. 3 – there are more trans people now than there used to be because they aren’t all dead. Along with other, more speculative reasons.

But this final part is all in reaction to that rightist propaganda going around about how “even Europe is backing off” puberty blockers and trans-affirmation and pointing to the Tory-controlled NHS, and a couple of exaggerations about changes in two other countries which were, surprise, also forced by the right. Because that’s what shows medical concern: bowing to hate and pressure campaigns from international authoritarians.

And now I’m already getting angry again, so here’s the last part, under the fold.

[So are you alleging that] “Britain’s NHS… [is] in league with Ron deSantis”?

Oh god. Oh my god. Literally oh my god.

This is where and why this can be so FUCKING HARD, okay?

Because I have been going for FUCKING YEARS. AND YEARS. AND YEARS. AND YEARS – more on Twitter than here, more on my blog and on Dreamwidth and on Tumblr than here, but still – about the American fundamentalist movement’s experiments in Great Britain, focused largely through the Heritage Foundation but not just, and the ties they developed with various influential members of the Tory party and also with the people who formed the core of English TERFdom, posting pictures of influential English TERFs at Heritage Foundation events, showing the money links, showing the cooperation links, and talking about how the Tories were quite happy to pick up on all of this and use it for various political reasons centred around – of course – power.

And I’ve talked, but less – mostly amplifying the voices of actual English people – about how the Tories were working in (and against) the NHS to distort science and justify elimination of coverage, and and and and and most of all

….I warned people, and warned people, and warned people, about how this whole clusterfuck in the UK was in meaningful part trails and test marketing, and that EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF IT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE US.

as it FUCKING HAS BEEN.

EXACTLY LIKE I SAID IT WOULD BE.

LIKE I SAID FOR. FUCKING. YEARS.

JESUS CHRIST WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT TAKE TO GET HEARD? WHAT DOES IT? WAHT THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO DO? SOMEBODY FUCKING TELL ME, OKAY?! BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SURE AS HELL AREN’T LISTENING AND I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING. FOR YEARS.

And, and. And. Fuck. I don’t even know.

But I do know you sure as fuck have been listening to them. Believe me. You’ve got all the language down. I can tell.

Jesus christ. Jesus FUCKING christ.

Jesus fuck.

I literally feel sick. Okay? Literally sick. In my stomach.

I got nothing. Fuck this. I got nothing.

Jesus fuck.

I was going to try to build a better response to a … to a few things. I had a draft. And now I just fucking can’t because jesus fuck none of it has meant anything.

Go away. Don’t talk to me for a while. At all. Just fucking don’t. I can’t deal with it. Go away.

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