twitter allows verified exterminationist accounts

[solarbird]

The account pictured in screenshots under the cut has a username which is the name of the day of lauded genocide against non-whites, queers, and leftists in a particularly (in)famous modern white nationalist novel, The ****** Di*a**ries. The novel tells the story of a fascist revolution in the United States, as told from the point of view of a fascist, and is considered something of a political guide to starting such a revolution.

This was reported and found not to be in violation of Twitter's new policies.

This is who Musk is actively recruiting and verifying. This is why I say it is time to leave.

Comments

[kathmandu]

I saw Musk's resorted to making loud public announcements about "Apple stopped advertising with us! Does Apple hate free speech?" which is such a desperate gesture. Like standing in the school cafeteria making loud remarks about how the person who turned you down for a date is probably a snob.

I was only ever lurking without logging in, but I do see your point about 'time to leave'.

[dewline]

Looking forward to starting over with Spoutible once they launch, unless you have any issues with them?

All the Mastodon stuff is...confusing at the moment.

[solarbird]

Wow, I've never even heard of that one. Link me?

Mastodon is like email except twitter. Anyone can run an instance and they all talk to each other and change information unless excluded, so from a use basis which instance doesn't much matter. (There is Nazi Masotodon. It's well-siloed. Don't be on Nazi Mastodon, but that's not hard to figure out.)

The advantage, of course, is that nobody can buy out Mastodon. And because instances can block each other (defederate), instances tend to have active moderation, and fascists/etc end up grouping on their own servers... which then get widely defederated. Basically it's come up with a rather good trick of using the N*zi Bar phenomenon against N*zis.

Mastodon accounts are also reasonably portable, so if you don't like the instance you're on, you can set up a forward and move to a difference instance.

On any given Mastodon instance, you'll have three feeds:

1. Home, which is the people you follow specifically.
2. Local, which is all the people's posts on the local instance.
3. Federated, which is all the people followed by everyone on your local server combined.

So a larger server can be better for account discovery if you're looking for people to follow. People tend to set up themed instances - Black Mastodon have a couple of instances, there's a couple of journalist instances, wandering.shop is kind of a core F&SF instance (with a lot of writers on it), the infosec community have an instance, there's a few scientist instances, it goes on.

It's all specifically very distributed to avoid what we're seeing now with Twitter.

Of course, now Tumblr is implementing ActivityHub (the underlying structure of Mastodon and several other similar but less well-known distributed applications like it) so the Federation is about to get a lot bigger... well okay it's already a lot bigger, but a lot lot bigger. Assuming they go through with it. Which I hope they do.

Does that help?

[dewline]

Spoutible is being organized by - among others - Christopher Bouzy. Same people as behind BotSentinel. His Twitter feed - "cbouzy" - has been filled with the process of building it up to ready-for-field-testing for the last month. The name was announced today.

https://prebeta.botsentinel.com/

[wrog]

Mastodon accounts are also reasonably portable, so if you don't like the instance you're on, you can set up a forward and move to a difference instance.

I'm told (though have yet to verify this myself — thought I saw a jwz post on this, but now I can't find it) that if you're banned by an instance then you will not have the necessary access to move your account off of it (i.e., moving involves doing stuff on both the server your moving off of and the server you're moving to, and if the former is banning you, then that blocks you from, e.g., getting all of your data off and properly setting up the forwarding to the new account...)

I suppose the answer to this is, "Try not to get yourself banned before deciding you want to leave," but I'm guessing that doesn't always work out in practice.

[solarbird]

Depends upon how hard they hammer you. An administrator can choose to purge all your content immediately, which would be very necessary in certain circumstances. But the default locks you down instead and you should still be able to relocate.

So that's absolutely possible, but not a given.

[armiphlage]

I have similar responses from the admins of job-posting sites. "This company's ad saying "Hiring manager. Must be white, male" doesn't violate our T&Cs". In such cases, I then go to regulatory agencies, licensing boards, or other third parties to get action taken.

When I can't find the real business name or address of the company, using a burner account to apply for a job / befriend the racist sexist weasels often is helpful.

[solarbird]

Well, there's no escalation point like that for this, the buck in this case stops at Twitter, which right now, means it stops basically at fascist propagandist A*dy N*o, as far as I can tell.

But I've seen you posting about your work in in this field before, it's admirable.