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I've been trying to walk away, but I saw this, and, well, here I am again. Hey, what's one more drink?

One of the few constraints that the chief executive Mr. Bush and his supporters have acknowledged over the last several years - even as they claimed the right to arrest and indefinitely hold citizens without charge or court review, authorised torture, and so on - has been the right of Congress to control the budget, and, as such, spending. Indeed, they have all but dared Congress to cut funding for the Iraq war, something Congress has been too cowardly to pursue.

However, this control of spending is apparently no longer being recognised by the Bush administration, as per this recent signing statement. Specifically, Mr. Bush asserts the ability to spend money not just not authorised, but specifically forbidden by law - specifically, in the building of permanent military installations in Iraq, or exerting control over Iraqi oil resources. Mr. Bush is now claiming the right to spend money without Congressional approval, and in direct violation of Federal law, on his decision alone.

As Glenn Greenwald notes here, the most likely action of Congress will be to say "okay" and either ignore it, or pass some form of retroactive law so they can feel good about themselves. This is what they've done to date, and what they've continued to do in the face of open contempt for even the idea of an informed legislature. (See also those still unenforced subpoenas that the Bush administration ignored, now remaining unenforced courtesy the Democratic leadership.) As these acts continue to go unpunished - or, even, significantly opposed - by the powers that should be opposing them, they become normalised, precedent, and durable. The opportunity to reclaim a presidency under the law, rather than above and immune to it, disappears.

What we're seeing formed here is fundamentally worse than Soviet legal theory, and quite akin to actual, real fascist political theory as practiced. (And remember, by actively discussing Nazi actions and politics favourably, the GOP has ended the right to invoke Godwin's Law - as they have, really, waved the right to appeal to any law whatsoever.) The Soviet system involved a legislature that would delegate power to a smaller legislature that would delegate its power to the cabinet and Premier, who was typically also the General Secretary of the Communist Party. They would take whatever actions they saw fit, and then the legislative bodies could override them as they felt appropriate. This override ability was, theoretically, unlimited. Needless to say, this failed in practice, of course - but even here, the political theory allowed for greater legislative power over the executive than the Bush administration accepts.

Fascist political theory dismissed the idea of a legislature - but the absolute leader would face re-election upon occasion, or at very least referendum, to insure that he always followed the racial will of the populace. (One might call these "accountability moments.") I'm not that certain we have something all that different right now. And in actual practice, even in Nazi Germany, there was still a parliament - advisory, and mostly a propaganda platform, but with theoretical powers to act. Officially, Mr. Hitler was operating under the auspices of this legislature; under the Enabling Act of 1933, the legislature retained the ability to create new law, and could not (again, in theory) be affected by the laws decreed by Mr. Hitler. The Act even included an expiration, and was indeed renewed twice, on schedule, in 1937, and again in 1941. The act could, still in theory, be revoked by the legislature, allowing their resumption of these powers.

Even this is more of a theoretical check than Mr. Bush's administration admits to Congress today.

On the theory side of things, there is genuinely no place left to go. (On the practical side, there is obviously quite a bit further to fall. But this is a discussion of political theory.) In terms of the idea of rights as rights, of checks and balances, of limited and lawful government, of a president constrained by the law, there is no place left to go. There is no Constitution, there is no President, there is no law, and none of us are citizens. Instead, there are show trials, there is a surveillance society, there is a torture regime, there is an executive untouchable by law. There is also some shred of democracy, but with a Congressional incumbency re-election rate running around 95% despite terribly low approval ratings year in and year out, you have to question how much this shred matters. Alternatively, you decide it matters quite a lot - but then you have to accept the idea that most Americans are just fine with things this way, bitching to pollsters left aside, and want a Decider, not a President; they want torture and arbitrary arrest, not 900-plus years of Anglo-Saxon legal tradition; they want rule by person and personality, rather than rule by law.

And I just don't see how you back away from here. Not with the cast currently on stage. Honestly, I really don't - which, I suppose, is why I keep trying to walk away.

Date: 2008-02-01 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llachglin.livejournal.com
I think your analysis of what has happened is right on. Your analysis of why and what comes next is a bit lacking.

I think the real reason Democrats in Congress aren't putting up more of a fuss is because they have concluded that it is politically impossible to win in the current climate so long as Bush is president--on anything but very popular and bipartisan stands (SCHIP--and even there they lost, and economic stimulus plans, and not much else.) So they're in a holding pattern until the November elections. If Obama or Clinton is the next president, the unitary executive bullshit goes out the window, as does the telecom immunity and the politicization of the Justice Department, and every other arm of the criminal conspiracy that is the Bush White House.

I think they're not entirely wrong to look at things this way, though they're underestimating the value of looking strong in opposition and standing up for things even if those things (like basic Constitutional principles, human rights, and the rule of law) aren't majority electoral issues. And of course these things should be more important than winning the next election; on the other hand, losing the next election means these things are pretty much dead anyway, so maybe they're making the right choice after all.

That's not to say that I think everything will be peaches and cream if Democrats are elected. Certainly, even if FISA with immunity is blocked, the bill is pretty bad even without immunity, and Democrats would pass it and sign it into law even if it was only up to them. The "war on terrorism" will continue to be used to justify bad foreign policy and incursions against our liberties at home, though Obama has made some statements that suggest he'd shift away from that view a bit. I'm not sure military tribunals will be rolled back, or that Bush administration officials will be held accountable for torture and other war crimes. But the scenario you've sketched out above? That's out the window if the Democrats win.

Date: 2008-02-01 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llachglin.livejournal.com
I would like to see Bush's abuses specificially repudiated, rather than simply ignored, but I have a fundamental disagreement about the nature of power. I think that governments have the powers they can get away with in practice, and that we're only ever as safe as we're willing to resist authoritarian rule, regardless of the written law. Bush has demonstrated this clearly; the actual written law can be interpreted away in execution, and he has powers because he uses them and no one opposes him. But if the next president doesn't use those powers, threaten to use them, or even claim them, those powers do not exist in any meaningful sense. Similarly, if the people rebel against those use of powers, they do not exist. Given the character of the Democrats and the popular response to Democratic presidents, I find it unlikely that any Democrat would claim the powers that Bush has claimed, much less use them without a massive public outcry that would stop them in their tracks. You'll probably even find Republicans switching their votes on a lot of this stuff once they have to accept a Democratic president is in the White House (for proof of that, remember all of the anti-war Republicans when Bill Clinton was using the military in Kosovo and Bosnia, who later supported Bush's war in Iraq).

But yeah, Democrats would accept the PAA without telecom immunity, just as Bill Clinton pushed for many of the USA PATRIOT powers during his presidency (with Al Gore's assent, I should add, for any pro-Gore people who might be reading this). However, I don't see them pushing for any further expansions beyond what's already on the table, and I take the long view that we have to stop the train before we can turn it around. One big part of stopping the train in the long term is going to be a better judiciary. You'll get that with any Democratic president.

So this is the choice I see:

Democrats:

Bill Clinton's foreign policy (bad, but not insane)
Bill Clinton's civil liberties policy (getting worse slowly, but with enough institutional resistance that the worst-case scenarios are held off)
Good domestic policy on everything but civil liberties, much better than during Bill Clinton, and probably better than at any time since FDR
Judges who will oppose the radical right agenda.

Republicans:

GWB's foreign policy, or worse (insane and getting insaner)
GWB's civil liberties policy, or worse (insane, and neo-fascist)
Domestic policy ranging between that of GHWB (bad but bearable) and GWB (insane)
Judges in the mold of Scalia, Alito, and Roberts (insane, ruining our legal system's checks on executive power)

It's an easy decision.

Date: 2008-02-02 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfs.livejournal.com
Just to add to your theory of Godwin, Mike Huckabee has been claiming that he'll be able to drive all illegal aliens out of this country within 120 days.

That may be a little ambitious, but you know where they get these ideas from?
If it took the Germans less than four years to rid themselves of 6 million Jews, many of whom spoke German and were fully integrated into German society, it couldn't possibly take more than eight years to deport 12 million illegal aliens, many of whom don't speak English and are not integrated into American society.
Vox Day of WorldNetDaily, May 14th, 2006.

Day has since removed the glowing review of Nazi handiwork, apparently out of embarrassment, but there are copies of it all over the 'net. Come to think of it, not only did I blog about it (http://elfs.livejournal.com/468844.html), but you responded. (http://elfs.livejournal.com/468844.html#t2226796)

Date: 2008-02-02 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cafiorello.livejournal.com
Damn, did we blow it? Is the promise of the Enlightenment actually dead? *sigh* Look, everybody who gets into power tends to want to arrogate power to themselves, thinking *they* can handle it responsibly. I had high hopes that our system of checks and balances and the Constitution would balance that tendency (well, so did Thomas Jefferson) for at least a while.

Cathy

Date: 2008-02-05 08:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lisa-marli.livejournal.com
Part of the problem is the Democrats DO NOT Control Congress. Many things need a 2/3rds vote and the Dems Don't Have It. They can't override a veto, they can't impeach, they can't even stop a filibuster in the Senate. That Control everyone claims they have is actually Nonexistent.
I do wish they would spend less time giving Bush many of the things he wants, but as Bush has shown, He is Above the Law and I think they are just trying to make sure he hangs the whole Republican Party along with himself.
Unfortunately for us, the Fear Mongers have been busily at work for 12 years or more (yes, they started during the Clinton years. This was a long ramp up to this point). And People do Stoopid Things when they are afraid. Just ask the Germans.
We are repeating History right now. Let's hope more people see what is happening and Change Things.
Me? I give my money to the ACLU who is still fighting the Just War. And I was for Edwards, Will give Obama the chance. If the Fear Mongers don't get to him, he'll make a decent president. Bummer he'll have to deal with the mess Bush is leaving him. I bet he's a 1 term president who no one will appreciate until years later.

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