a dog deciding between two bones
May. 27th, 2022 09:47 pmSo I'm trying to decide between tools of a sort and I'm in a conundrum.
3D printing generates a lot of waste PLA in the form of bad prints, support structures, and so on. That's not actually so bad; it's a medium-term carbon store that doesn't break down to microplastics.
But.
Reuse is even better. So given that I semi-regularly have use for rigid sheets of material, and that PLA in most cases would be a fine material for this, well, you can see where I'm going.
A bunch of people say they've managed to melt waste PLA into sheets just fine in ovens. People have been talked about casting with it, melting it down into a pourable liquid.
All this should be possible. But.
I tried the oven thing. It was an absolutely laughable failure and I don't know why. So I have a Concern about that whole idea.
I've also seen people make sheets successfully in videos - but they weren't using ovens. They were using T-shirt transfer presses.
T-shirt transfer presses make all kinds of sense. You've got a nice even press, you've got plenty of heat. It should work.
But so should the oven thing, and I know how that went. And if a T-shirt press fails as badly...
...what the hell am I gonna do with a T-shirt press?
A toaster oven, I can do things with. I could use it as a materials accelerator, a hotbox. I could use it just as a warming chamber - though I have a lot less need for that now since I made an even bigger one, another wouldn't hurt anything. I could do powder coating of small objects.
I could even make toast.
But a T-shirt press?
I mean, if it works, great, I become a maker of small-quantity plastic sheeting that I use myself and hand out to other makers who can use it, go public service me.
But if it doesn't, then it's a single-use tool for which I have no use.
I hate that.
So, yeah. Conundrum. More likely to work, but if and when it doesn't, I've wasted gift cards. Whereas if I get a toaster oven and still can't make the oven method work, at least I still have a toaster oven.
I just dunno.
As problems go, it's not big, but I do want to solve it, partly because I've been doing a lot of prototyping (and making tools, say hello to my new little friend the drum sander) so have a lot of space-taking waste PLA, and partly because I could actually use some sheet plastic.
So, yeah.
If I knew for sure I could make the T-shirt press work, I probably would go with it. But I don't know that.
If I knew what went wrong with my oven attempt, I'd probably be okay going with that too. (And I have been told to grind the plastic down, so I might. Maybe.)
ugh.
I wish I knew someone personally (as opposed to reddit people) who'd done this. But I don't.
hmf.
(Side consideration: I have enough gift card for a pretty nice toaster oven, but a fairly low-end T-shirt press. Not the lowest end, rating is 4.5 stars, but it's not exactly the highest quality machine either. That's also a matter of consideration. I guess.)
3D printing generates a lot of waste PLA in the form of bad prints, support structures, and so on. That's not actually so bad; it's a medium-term carbon store that doesn't break down to microplastics.
But.
Reuse is even better. So given that I semi-regularly have use for rigid sheets of material, and that PLA in most cases would be a fine material for this, well, you can see where I'm going.
A bunch of people say they've managed to melt waste PLA into sheets just fine in ovens. People have been talked about casting with it, melting it down into a pourable liquid.
All this should be possible. But.
I tried the oven thing. It was an absolutely laughable failure and I don't know why. So I have a Concern about that whole idea.
I've also seen people make sheets successfully in videos - but they weren't using ovens. They were using T-shirt transfer presses.
T-shirt transfer presses make all kinds of sense. You've got a nice even press, you've got plenty of heat. It should work.
But so should the oven thing, and I know how that went. And if a T-shirt press fails as badly...
...what the hell am I gonna do with a T-shirt press?
A toaster oven, I can do things with. I could use it as a materials accelerator, a hotbox. I could use it just as a warming chamber - though I have a lot less need for that now since I made an even bigger one, another wouldn't hurt anything. I could do powder coating of small objects.
I could even make toast.
But a T-shirt press?
I mean, if it works, great, I become a maker of small-quantity plastic sheeting that I use myself and hand out to other makers who can use it, go public service me.
But if it doesn't, then it's a single-use tool for which I have no use.
I hate that.
So, yeah. Conundrum. More likely to work, but if and when it doesn't, I've wasted gift cards. Whereas if I get a toaster oven and still can't make the oven method work, at least I still have a toaster oven.
I just dunno.
As problems go, it's not big, but I do want to solve it, partly because I've been doing a lot of prototyping (and making tools, say hello to my new little friend the drum sander) so have a lot of space-taking waste PLA, and partly because I could actually use some sheet plastic.
So, yeah.
If I knew for sure I could make the T-shirt press work, I probably would go with it. But I don't know that.
If I knew what went wrong with my oven attempt, I'd probably be okay going with that too. (And I have been told to grind the plastic down, so I might. Maybe.)
ugh.
I wish I knew someone personally (as opposed to reddit people) who'd done this. But I don't.
hmf.
(Side consideration: I have enough gift card for a pretty nice toaster oven, but a fairly low-end T-shirt press. Not the lowest end, rating is 4.5 stars, but it's not exactly the highest quality machine either. That's also a matter of consideration. I guess.)