Nov. 8th, 2008

solarbird: (not_in_the_mood)
An anti-gay Bradley effect can be seen clearly in numbers in California with Catholic voters, who both turned out in higher numbers than polled, and much more strongly against marriage rights than polled. Mark DiCamillo (director, The Field Poll in California) notes, "polling on issues like same-sex marriage that have a direct bearing on religious doctrine can be affected in a big way in the final weekend by last minute appeals by the clergy and religious organizations."

A movement to boycott Utah based on the Church's leading and overwhelming support for Initiative 8 has started. Commentary:
The Mormon church put up four out of every five dollars spent to ban same-sex marriage in California. More than 18,000 legally married couples in California were forcibly divorced on Tuesday...

Oh, and the leaders of the Mormon church - which financed all the bigoted distortions of the “Yes on 8” campaign (gay people recruit children! they’re going to teach gay sex in schools!) - are out there calling on people to treat each the with “civility, with respect and with love.” Uh-huh.

Sorry, douchebags, but you can’t throw a punch like that and scream “play nice!” or “you can’t be mean to us—we’re a church!” You wanna play politics with peoples’ lives? Fine. But they game’s on now and remember: you started it.
TerranceDC at Pam's House Blend (African-American, and queer) is extremely unhappy about "historically black homophobia:"
And no, by the way, I no longer give a shit about defending African Americans against the notion that they're more homophobic than whites, for the same reason I no longer give a shit about defending a Black politician like Harold Ford against the racist attack ads the Republicans are running against him. Because Harold Ford is no different than the racist Republican candidate running in Virginia, and the students at Central State University are no different than the Klan or a gang of marauding skinheads. I don't defend anyone who would turn around and leave me and mine twisting in the wind. I no longer care.
[livejournal.com profile] nihilistic_kid has been out in some of the protests, and has pictures. Thanks, Nick. I like the "Save Sulu's Marriage" sign.

Barack Obama on LOGO telling lesbian and gay people they should work more on ENDA than, you know, being married.

Tony Perkins says the GOP needs to move further to the social right, blaming "moderates" for losses this election:
Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council told CNN that conservatives need to take back control of the GOP if the party is to return to its winning ways... Pointing to measures in California, Florida and Arizona barring same-sex marriage that passed Tuesday, Perkins said President-elect Barack Obama's election did not mean the country had embraced liberal social views.
Meanwhile, in Canada, the Conservative Party is getting ready to ditch platform language against same-sex marriage, having already effectively dropped opposition after a token reconsideration vote a few years ago.

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Nov. 8th, 2008 09:30 am
solarbird: (Default)
A relative of a Slog blogger voted Yes on 8 to reassure herself about her faith:
You already know we believe in the Church—and, by corollary, the importance of thoughtful and considered obedience to divinely called leaders, and have made our decision to stand in that place. ... But when we look back at polygamy or the “Negro question” for example, we feel like as awful as those things are, we wouldn’t have wanted to give up on our most important feelings and beliefs because of them. I guess I feel like we were not so much supporting Prop 8 as making this small signal that we believe in a prophet.
Hey, sure, fuck millions of people to make a personal statement about your internal belief system. Go the fuck ahead, why the fuck not? It's not like queers are actual people.

More at the link above, if you can stomach it.

The Associated Press has picked up on the Utah boycott story. In case you're curious, here's the MSI, which is the Mormon Stock Index.

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