And history repeats itself, alas. The Puritans fought the "good fight" in the early 1600's to get out from under the Church of England, only to become even more brutal than England ever was. Which brutality resulted in the Baptists. *sigh*

I don't know where people get off being exclusive rather than inclusive. I mean, we're *people*, for Seldon's sake, white, black, Asian, purple polky-dots, male, female, both, neither, straight, gay, bi, sapiosexual, Christian, pagan, Muslim, Buddhist, Jew, or worshipping a frelling tomato, and at least I was taught that you treat them with respect (until and unless they do otherwise to you). But I wish they'd get a clue...